Understanding Reality- Dialogue

What is the purpose of naming things?

Among other things to distinguish 'one from another.'

So do you agree that if you call out two different names they refer to different identities?

Yes, they ought to be separate things. One is not the other even if it is identical.

So, do you agree that when you call two names of twin boys [t1 and t2] Are they different?

yes of course. They are not the same even if one is exact carbon copy of the other.

If you call 'something' or 'state' as true what does it mean?

It means..." the something or state is real. it is not false”.

What is real? explain me?

Reality is the truth. 

What is false?

The one which is not real, untruth.

What is truth and untruth?

Truth is the one which exists. Untruth is something which does not exist.

What do you mean by existence and non existence?

Existence is ...the one which you know exists.

How do you usually know if something exists. Do you come to know if something exists if someone tells you it exists?

No..no i know something exists when i know it exists.

But, how do you know if something exists?

I know it when i see it with my eyes.

So you don't know if it exists when you hear it, smell it or taste it or feel it on your skin?

No, i know if it exists even if i feel, experience any of the things mentioned above.

So, say if you hear something but do not see it do you know if something exists?

i Will know that it exists but i may not know how it looks like.

How do you know if something is not existing?

When i don't see it, hear it, smell it, taste it.

So if you don't experience something with your senses you will not know if something exists?

Yes without experience i cannot know if something exists or not.

From what we discussed until now do you agree that Truth is what you experience through your senses?

Yes i am perfectly fine with it..because truth is existence and existence can be experienced through senses.

So do you agree that untruth cannot be experienced through human senses?

Yes.

So Untruth cannot be experienced?

Yes it cannot be. it is false. it does not exist.

Coming back to your first question do you know think if you two things are different and carry different names one is not the other?

yes one is not the other. If they are one and the same why would i call them by two different names. Unless of course if two become one. Then there exists only one with one name. He cannot have two names because two names indicate two different identities.

Suppose, you stare at your mirror what do you see on it?

I see myself.

Are you sure you see yourself?

No it is the image of myself. 

You and the image in the mirror are not one?

No..how could it be? It is called my image. It is not me.

So you are only one?

Yes I cannot be many. If there are more of me they are copies of me, they are not me. i alone can be real me.

Are you the only truth of you?

How can there be many truths? It does not make any sense.

What about the image of yourself in the mirror? Do you think it is real? 

No it is not real..it is only an image of me ...it is not me.

Is the image false?

Yes......it is false ...it is not me.

So you agree that you cannot experience the image through your senses?

No..no i can see it but it is not the real|truth.

But just few minutes back you said reality/truth can be experienced through human senses?

Yes..

So your statement that the image in the mirror is not real is incorrect?

Yes it is real.my statement is incorrect.

But you told me real can only be one but not many?

yes it is true. There is only one me. it is real. The image of me in the mirror is real. It is not me. 

But image in the mirror...it looks so much like you. He moves exactly as you move?

Yes that is his nature..he is a reflection of me.

Do you agree that you and the image in the mirror are separate realities?

yes we have different names..if i am 'I' then the my image is 'im'. 

Do you agree that both of you exist?

yes

Both of you are Truths?

Yes we are Truths representing two different things i.e to say i represent the truth of myself which is only one. the image represents only the truth about my image.

This image of you in the mirror is so identical to you..he can almost do everthing you do. Don't you think people may mistake the image of you to be you?

Oh yes there is a good chance that they might think the image to be me.

This image of you, he looks like you, he acts like you and may misrepresent himself to be you. is there anyway how people could identify you..other than by name?

let me think..yes he does not exist with out me.

What do you mean he does not exist with out you?

People cannot experience him through their senses if i move out of the mirror range.

How is it possible?

The image is a reflection of me who cannot exist with out me standing infront of the mirror. I continue to exist without the image of me whreas the image cannot exist with out me.

So for the people who are looking for you inorder to come to you they should check if the image does not exist with out you?

Yes 

Is it not this image lot of trouble to the people who want you and not the image. They are unable to look at you because the image is so much like you..almost you?

Yes but the people must realise that for choosing me between me and the image i am the truth and not the image. 

But the image of you is also true?

Yes but between him and me i am the absolute truth for the people who seek me.

What about the image? is he not true?

He is not true (illusion) to the people who want to look at me because he tends to confuse their minds.